Why I have already voted Conservative

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   turbograndad

   2 May 2015, 09:11

   Armegeddon sooner, rather than later, VOTE LABOUR, hip hip hoorah.

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   J P Spaghetti

   2 May 2015, 12:16

   The bottom line is we don’t (well the overwhelming majority of us, anyway) know WHAT the truth is, be it about net migration, the rate of change in the national debt, how many middle management arseholes the NHS could shake off without significant degradation (or perhaps to even result in an improvement), the true cost of business bedding in with so-called universities because they think they’re getting top research on the cheap, whether Ed dyes his hair, whether Cameron truly is a half brother of Julian Lennon and why we never see George from rainbow and the other Ed in the same place at the same time. We just don’t know.

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   David Russell

   2 May 2015, 14:43

   I think they are all the same and only tell the public the thinks they think will get those votes. They all should work together and turn this country around instead of acting like spoilt kids throwing their dummies out the pram because they don’t get their own way. In the end we need the best for this country and arguments and slagging each other off don’t help us. This country needs people who work together honest and truthful but I cannot say that we have any party like that. I will vote based on my sons beliefs who understands it a lot better than me.

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   Andrew

   2 May 2015, 17:39

   In Medicine, hypotheses are examined by way of clinical trial and results implemented and audited. Opinions are marginalised by facts. The whole political system should run this way. Strip out the puff and bullshit and run politics as a big experiment that is regularly appraised and improved. The NHS for instance, should be entirely de politicised. Free from 4 yearly tinkering it might improve but the country needs to know that the current funding level will bring it to its knees. I agree with JPS, it feels unerving in these times to be voting stripped of hard validated data. We still vote on the cult of personality and democracy in this context is a sham. The political system and its relatioship with the media is failing us all.

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   Jimbo

   2 May 2015, 21:50

   I’d rather have accelerated armageddon than wait for the inevitable for another 10 years. To this end, I’m voting UKIP. The UK will get the government it deserves, and I’m coming round to the growing realisation that a not insignificant number of the British population – the money tree believers – deserve a Labour/SNP disaster .At least both parties may render themselves unelectable for a generation as a result – fingers crossed.

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   Jason

   3 May 2015, 02:37

   I’ll vote UKIP to shake things up a bit although as I live in one of the Conservatives safest constituencies it’ll have no effect. Only other party I’d vote for is the Conservatives anyway. Like most of the electorate I’d just like politicians to tell it straight, not make promises we can’t afford, put the country & people’s long term interests first, stamp on vested interests, shake up all sacred cows (including the NHS) to get our moneys worth and govern with intelligence and integrity. I also await a flight of flying pigs.

   PS If we get Milliband it will not be my fault
   PPS If we get a vote on the EU I’ll vote ‘out’ ~ I see little benefit in paying £9-10bn net for trade we’d do anyway, jumping to others (unelected) tune, paying £billions for fish fished by others out of British waters, £billions more to preserve uncompetitive EU farmers etc etc I’d also happily see foreign aid slashed in favour of a ‘trade not aid’ approach by the UK.
   PPPS Go Nigel keep putting the unpalatable issues on the table when others are afraid to do so!!!

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   larboulois

   3 May 2015, 03:06

   “Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, expecting different results” is a quote often attributed to Albert Einstein.

   Similarly, If you always do what you’ve always done, you’ll always get what you always got.

   It doesn’t matter who you vote for the Government always gets in . . . (for Government read political elite/civil service).

   I’m voting UKIP. I don’t necessarily hold with all Farage ‘says/believes’ – it’s just that he’s the most believable and the country needs an almighty shake up.

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   Dick

   3 May 2015, 03:39

   As Einstein said: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different outcome is a sure sign of madness. Yet people seem ready to vote for Labour again even though every period of Labour government has been a disaster. . And as for the NHS, it is a deadweight, like the benefits system, weighing on the body of the country. Those people who want more money poured into this monstrosity do so because they expect the money to come from other people and other sources. If they thought it was going to come out of their own pockets, they would be a lot less keen. No amount of new money will, in any case, make a difference to the NHS. When Brown poured money into it, they spent it on new management jobs, and increased their own pay. The NHS needs to be pruned.

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   jason

   3 May 2015, 04:29

   On EU referendum issue Cameron has already laid the foundation to break this commitment by stating “if there is a Conservative majority government we will…” the clear implication being that if, as is likely, there is another coalition then that commitment is on the table/could be negotiated away.

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    catempire

    3 May 2015, 04:54

    Screw the Conservatives and the politicians.. The more pressing matter would be to vote on who prints and owns the monetary system… having the monetary system as a private entity set up to make the select few the richest people in the world is and will always be the most de-stabilizing thing for the people.

    “Let me issue and control a nations money and I care not who writes its laws” – Mayer Amschel Rothschild

    This is where the true issue lie’s, which political party will only make a minor difference.

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    J P Spaghetti

    3 May 2015, 05:00

    “Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, expecting different results” is a quote often attributed to Albert Einstein.”

    But then old Albert could never quite bring himself to embrace quantum mechanics (despite receiving his Nobel prize in 1921 not for relativity but for his explanation, in 1905, of the photoelectric effect that led to the quantum revolution), which tells us that doing the same thing over and over again CAN and DOES result in different outcomes. Furthermore, its predictions are by far the most accurate in the history of science. Just saying.

    Many scientists can be tossers, though (this was never true of the glorious Albert, I hasten to add). Just look at James Watson.

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    Tony

    3 May 2015, 09:29

    I am voting UKIP as they are the only party to remotely identify with the concerns of the population at large, as I live in a safe Labour seat my vote will not alter the result but I do not consider it a ‘wasted’ one as if everyone did that the UKIP percentage vote would collapse much to the delight of the main parties and we would have no hope of breaking up the cosy cartel.

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    Martyn (Owen Nobody)

    3 May 2015, 10:34

    No point in Voting Tory in the Welsh Labour heartlands, they wouldn’t vote blue even if you paid them. I voted UKIP as a result – the disaffected might vote for them,

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    Marvin

    3 May 2015, 12:10

    Tom
    When I found this site I thought you guys might understand the monetary framework unlike the idiots in parliament and the financial press as you give the impression you undertsand double-entry bookkeeping. Catempire is right. The state is in charge of the monetary system. It doesn’t tax or ‘borrow’ to fund anything. It did when money was precious metal but with fiat currencies it can only tax or ‘borrow’ previously spent currency. The difference between what it has spent and what it has taxed over the years is the private net savings in GBP financial assets of non-government whether held at home or abroad. All the private bank money, the assets to the holders /liabilities to the banks including bank deposits and derivatives and the corresponding liabilities to the holders/assets to the banks including bank loans and other derivatives all net out to zero.

    The State can’t go bankrupt. It can always afford anything for sale in its own currency and it creates that currency when it spends, removes it when it taxes and swaps it for currency with an interest coupon when it ‘borrows’
    OK if the economy is working at full capacity then putting in more than they take out will result in inflation but that hasn’t been an issue, if it ever was, since the seventies.
    The result, unfortunately or not, means a strong state sector is essential to make the thing work.
    The central bank merely accomodates the make up of outstanding currency and determines the price of currency to the banks. Ever wonder how at any time the Bank of England, i.e. the Govt can take back a third of its national ‘debt’ and replace it with reserves. It holds a lot more at any one time depending on which asset is required in non-government i.e reserves or gilts or ecen physical cash.

    Back to double-entry, I find the best way to demonstrate the above is to record double entry for every kind of financial transaction between the sectors Govt including the central bank, non-government and private banks on a spreadsheet with each transaction on one row with up to 6 entries’ 3 debits 3 credits. What you are recording is the movement of the financial asets itself rather than what it represents. The sum of the columns, with b/f and c/f balances then represents the holdings of each sector of each kind of financial asset.

    Not sure any of this affects the stock trading business which is all private money but understanding the framework might add an edge and it makes bugger all difference which of the idiots you vote into parliament in my view.

    TW NOTE - the state cannot go bankrupt? Hmmmm Am off to Greece next week

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    Marvin

    3 May 2015, 12:45

    Spot the difference.
    Which is why Greece should reinstate its own currency with a floating exchange rate asap.

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    Marvin

    3 May 2015, 12:50

    Check out a guy called Warren Mosler who made $100m back in the day pre euro when the meerkats were all betting that Italy would default on its bonds.
    He pointed out the obvious to the Italian authorities and bought them by the bucket load.

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    wildrides

    5 May 2015, 06:57

    I thought you would be voting Greens ……. what with their promise of false limbs for cats with three legs , made from unobtainium , mined in a sustainable fashion …..naturally .