Mr Rhys Griffiths of law firm Field Fisher would have to be a prime contender for this award. He reckons that I have invented a time machine and also made up a quote for me to support his mad thesis. Sadly he did not post his ramblings on a Bulletin Board but sent them in a joke lawyer’s letter to me on behalf of the asylum known as LSE.co.uk so he is ineligible. But in honour of the buffoons who paid him £500 an hour to produce such piffle the competition is back.
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Comments
Phil
I’m going to start the ball rolling, but not with one for the competition, because for the first time I have a post of the lse BB which is 100% accurate, which is so unusual (has never happened before), I thought I would share it with you.
The poster is okenia, and I quote
“ normally pop in once a week to catch up on the fascinating soap opera that is Quindell (in the same way I listen to the omnibus edition of The Archers lol). I’m just getting upto speed on the two new board appointments and this remuneration package that is drawing so much criticism.
Can someone check my maths please?
19,640,115 40.00% £0.69 £5,393,176
19,640,115 20.00% £1.00 £3,928,023
19,640,115 13.33% £1.70 £4,451,648
19,640,115 13.33% £2.40 £6,284,680
19,640,115 13.33% £3.40 £8,903,296
Total £28,960,823
So is this correct, Rose/Sutcliffe will share a £29 million pot for a year’s work?
I’m in the wrong business, wow!”
Unquote
Now add to that this post, copy & paste of the Telegraph article which I quote in part
“However, Mr Sutcliffe told The Telegraph on Friday that he was “confident” that “good standards” had been applied regarding the remuneration packages, although he conceded that “the FRC was clearly uncomfortable about arrangements with Quindell”.
There was “no animosity” between himself and the FRC, he added.
Under the Code, it is recommended that non-executives such as Mr Rose are not remunerated in options. In addition, the code recommends that “in normal circumstances, shares granted or other forms of deferred remuneration should not vest or be paid, and options should not be exercisable, in less than three years”. The options granted to Mr Sutcliffe and Mr Rose vest within a year.
However, Mr Sutcliffe said that Quindell was “in a very unusual situation” and that “the arrangements that have been put in place were talked through with investors”.
He said: “The vesting periods are short because we’re only being asked to be here for a short period of time, it’s a short-term job so we agreed a vesting period that was tied to the period of work and then a holding period.”
He added: “What we have been asked to do, and I particularly personally have been asked to do, is to be here heavily for the next three months, then ostensibly for three more months and then to be here for a watching brief for another six months.”
A spokesman for Quindell said that Mr Sutcliffe’s comments on his tenure referred to the “intensity” of his executive role and that it is not intended that he and Mr Rose would only be at the company for a year. “
Unquote
So maybe an ala Sefton in the making, a placing supporting by the morons of the sag, to keep the lights on for how long, I don’t know but for at least a year..
Juicin Drumroll
Another LSE nutter.
Invest4life
Posts: 10
Opinion: Strong Buy
Price: 93.00
share buy back
Today 12:50
if I remember correctly the BOD said that they would aim to buy back up to £3 million of shares.
do they have to report they have done this once they have bought , or do they just include it in the full year figures
long and strong
catempire
Not on QPP but equally as ridiculous and retarded as the rest. Taken from the SER BB.
Exptrader
Posts: 406
Off Topic
Opinion: No Opinion
Price: 0.10
Good luck potter. Can’t see many getting in sub 0.3 to be honest, but there is usually a handful of lucky punters
Temptress
My nomination would have to go to “banned from QPPSAG” posting on the TW thread on ADVFN. Not only has he pissed off the mega bulls on the private QPPSAG site but also the mega bears on ADVFN. His ludicrous posts are too numerous to post but he should be a strong contender. Suffice to say he is “long and strong” of QPP.
Juicin Drumroll
This bull on ADVFN thinks QLS is as good as sold. It went for a pretty penny too, Pounds Sterling is the currency he’s talking about!
squire007 17 Jan’15 – 18:27 – 24602 of 24612 1 0
The bid is 800m plus.!
Bye bye,
Juicin Drumroll
This LSE eejit remains baffled by what the 15/1 consolidation does to 0.01p but what’s even funnier is he’s actually expecting a divi!
Invest4life
Posts: 10
Opinion: Strong Buy
Price: 93.00
RE: Happy
Today 13:52
well last years dividend was 0.01p so after the 15-1 shares fiasco it should be at least 1.5p without the progressive dividend policy that was promised so any dividend say 2p to 4p would be a fantastic start to the year and also then make an interim dividend in sept.
long and strong
Invetigate
This is an interesting thread regarding Slater and Gordon – shows two morons; Sebster and one of the biggest morons K3VMC!
Sebster posted on Saturday 17 Jan
“On reading this article it is clear that there is respect for Quindell and acceptance of Quindell’s No 1 position in UK personal injury legal sector it also follows that an offer is credible . .http://media.slatergordon.com.au/141215_taking_share.pdf”
A logical reply from patch 6 on 10.39 Sunday 18 Jan
“Also suggests the current “Quindell quagmire” is giving other firms the opportunity to compete.”
K3VMC could not dare have anything negative said about QPP comes on at 12.32 Sunday 18 Jan
“Looks like praise to me.
You can look at the note in full, thanks to Sebster’s link. In fairness, it talks about the damage caused to Quindell’s reputation, by the Gotham Trash. I guess that’s why they paid JS the big bucks. His mates at the top of the industry will perhaps believe him, more than RT, that the figures are sound and that their business is safe in Quindell’s hands.
“We estimate that Quindell Plc (“Quindell”) is the largest personal injury law firm in the UK having listed on the AIM exchange in May 2011 as a technology focused company. Quindell has been able to leverage off its
proprietary software solutions in the insurance and legal services industries to create a disruptive business model. This has allowed Quindell to quickly establish itself as the largest claims processor in the UK, with a focus on
motor vehicle insurance and personal injury claims predominantly in the fast track.
The business has looked to use its technology platform to lower the cost of legal claims for insurers by providing a broad offering of solutions and services that assist across the entire lifecycle of a standard personal injury claim.
Since listing in 2011 Quindell has grown rapidly by acquiring 17 acquisitions across the insurance claims process. Quindell acquired the legal practices of Silverbeck Rymer, Pinto Potts and The Compensation Lawyers in December 2012 which now makes up Quindell Legal Services along with two CMC’s: Compass Costs and Accident Advice Helpline.
In CY13 the Legal Services division of Quindell achieved £157m in revenue which would make it
the UK’s largest personal injury law firm with an estimated ~7% market share.
Extraordinary growth has been achieved
Quindell’s operations are underpinned by the Challenger Enterprise platform, which incorporates all aspects of claims management such as legal and health services to help settle claims at a lower cost to insurers. On the other side of the business,
Quindell provides a range of telematics services that are utilised by insurers to reduce the incidence of claims and reduce driver premiums. Quindell’s Legal Services (“QLS”) division operates from 10 locations across
the UK and recorded 82,350 new cases in 1H14. QLS deals with Employer Liability and Public Liability (“EL/PL”) cases with a focus on hearing loss and Road Traffic Act (“RTA”) cases focusing on personal injury. We understand that QLS provides services to eight of the top ten insurers in the UK where it receives large volumes of lower value fast track claims. The business has grown exponentially in the last 12 months achieving £180m of revenue in the
1H14 result (December year end) which compares to the £157m of revenue achieved in CY13.” “
——————————-
Credit Lyonnais Securities Asia research report highlights is a positive for Slater and Gordon
“Quindell quagmire
The share price collapse of AIM listed Quindell Plc since April presents Slaters with an opportunity to take market share from the largest player in the UK.No matter the outcome from PWC’s review into Quindell’s accounting
practices, our recent feedback indicates that insurers are already looking for legal services firms to replace Quindell on various panels for fast track cases. “
You wonder when K3VMC will ever wake up about QPP and be open to constructive debate.
Juicin Drumroll
And again from LSE. This one is brave or stupid. Or both.
GrumpyScouser
Posts: 1,517
Opinion: No Opinion
Price: 93.00
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RE: Put your money where your mouth..
Today 17:55
Agreed.
Tomorrow (depending on early RNS’s), I am likely to add a large chunk of up to £70k in my SIPP.
I’m more than happy with just a 50% increase bringing us up to NAV.
GLA
Invetigate
Mould posted at 17.01 on 18 Jan
“QPP Asset sale will attract speculators
Asset sales are going to attract a lot of speculators to this share, I can see it hitting 150[ by the end of the month and around 200p in the run up to the pcW report. There are individual parts of the business worth far in excess of the MCAP , and I think the 2p a day rises we have been seeing will see a lot of people piling into the share for a quick buck.
What do others think? “
Mould was also pumping NBU if you look at his posting history!
Casper
I nominate Mike from this very website (comments on 42’s assessment of the Quindell balance sheet)
“The stock market is always right and for whatever reason, and only a few people know of the reason, the market value of Quindell has increased”
The second half of the sentence is less foolish than the first. The stock market is always right ….
I suggest a visit to Graham and Doddsville to cure that kind of insanity
okenia
While I must thank Phil in the first post for the nice words, sadly I was caffeine-deprived at that moment and got hold of the wrong end of the stick. [In my defence, the Daily Mail made the same error]. Sorry, I was 100% incorrect (well the maths was right, the logic was flawed).
These are options to buy. £29m is therefore the amount Rose/Sutcliffe would have to PAY in some fashion in order to exercise those options at the price points stated. It’s not what they would receive. However, if they exercised all 19m of them and the SP hit £5 (to get QPP back to where it used to be) then those options would give them a maximum profit of £66m (after deducting the £29m it would cost to exercise them).
If QPP hits £5/share then I doubt there will be any QPP shareholders who will begrudge them that fee to be honest. I will leave it to others to voice an opinion on whether that is a likely scenario.
vinks
There’re some major changes in the institutional shareholder list:
Barclays Wealth Managers France SA – as of 05 Jan 2015 – 23.75m 5.44%
Toscafund Asset Management LLP – as of 02 Jan 2015 – 23.46m 5.38%
TD Direct Investing (Europe) Ltd. – as of 05 Jan 2015 – 22.30m 5.11%
Soros Fund Management LLC – as of 05 Jan 2015 – 22.27m 5.10%
Fidelity Management & Research Co. – as of 11 Nov 2014 – 21.40m 4.90%
Algebris Investments (UK) LLP – as of 05 Jan 2015 – 13.45m 3.08%
HSBC Global Asset Management (UK) Ltd. – as of 05 Jan 2015 – 10.17m 2.33%
Talos Securities Ltd. as of 05 Jan 2015 9.08m 2.08%
Really!
The brokers forecast up to £13.50/share within 12 months. If Quinners has a Rights Issue in the Spring to strengthen cash flow on their enormous sales growth, then this outrageous figure is definitely possible. They must have done their maths on the forecast sales, costs and margins. So if sales do grow, best to hang on to every QPP share you can buy. QPP have always met their sales targets. Which means they are still very cheap. Oops, it has gone up 1% whilst I’m typing!
Tom, Perhaps to balance things we could run a BB genius of the week, accepting that somehow the morons would need to be filtered
really
It’s quite easy to meet sales targets when they are mostly accruals or intra-group. E.g. “software licenses”
I suggest you check out the consolidated cash flow statement in h1 2014, and pay attention to the forthcoming cash flow statement for h2.
struie
Vinks,
I wonder why the Qpp website, updated on 8th January, doesn’t include all those?
It only shows these
M&G 29,166,666 6.68%
Tosca Fund 23,463,784 5.38%
Fidelity 21,398,267 4.90%
Second point is why no RNS to inform of those ln your list who are now over 5% like there was when Tosca went over 5%
May i ask where you got the list from?
.
struie
Hmm curious!
If you go here: http://markets.ft.com/research/Markets/Tearsheets/Business-profile?s=QPP:LSE
It says Hargreaves Lansdown asset management have 45.32 million 10.4% holding.
Well it did until a minute ago and now it has magically changed again to now say only 28.68 million 6.57% WTF?
SOROS is off the list now as well!
Is this more data feed problems like last week with the broker notes? Anyone got a clue whats going on here?
vinks
Hi Struie
This is a copy/paste from FT.com: http://markets.ft.com/research/markets/companies-research
Data from 29 Nov 2013 – 14 Jan 2015Source: FactSet Research Systems Inc.
Soros Fund Management LLC 22.27m 5.1% as of 05 Jan 2015
However, I don’t know if this
22.27m 5.10%
Shove It Sefton
This is a classic from the LSE Sefton board with OilBeBack writing to SellIsForCowards – these two chumps are well known mindless rampers and must be down tens of thousands and still they keep telling everyone what an amazing buy this stock is. For a really good laugh read either of their posting histories. Even by their standards the chat over the last few days has been nuts. So over to OilBeBack this week’s winner by a country mile ——
SERSIFCTue 15:42
I think you are wrong on the valuation of SER. I reckon the company is now worth closer to 1p than 0.8p. Following EGM approval for this deal SER will be ripe for a take over IMO. What is attractive for buyers is it’s listing, it’s tax losses and it’s Kansas assets. Despite 1000s of posts by the self serving bashers prophesying the demise of SER over the last 18 months, we are still firmly here with value to be realised. Not long to wait now.
GLA
Juicin Drumroll
TW,
Why have you allowed this to veer so completely OT since 19.01?
This is the Bulletin Board Moron of the week competition, not another forum for discussion of QPP.
You are killing the most read feature currently on your site.
Juicin Drumroll
This chap is having a rather ham fisted go at starting the ‘QPP Rumer(sic) O’the Day’
Hamm
Posts: 1,090
Off Topic
Opinion: Strong Buy
Price: 116.25
rumer
Today 09:13
Woodford, Goldman, buying shares in Quindell.
SERramper
saw this one as a master amongst the millions of ramps on Sefton, posted by Advance 123:
“You looking 1p easily after this special meeting.This will go one way onward and upward until the meeting.This one of best company to invest.fantastic management and huge potential company”
For a company with no management at all you can see this guy really did his research!
Phil
Well for all the constant posting on the LSE QPP board, they certainly root out those extra juices. I give you a world wide scoop from one:-
Mould
Posts: 1,792
Off Topic
Opinion: Strong Buy
Price: 105.25
View Thread (2)
Quote
“BREAKING NEWS
Today 07:47
* QUINDELL -
Ben Harrington’s Betaville blog reports that law firm Slater & Gordon is in exclusive talks to buy Quindell’s legal services division. Quindell and Slater & Gordon declined to comment, the blog said.”
Unquote
When you want to know, find someone who knows. shimple
Juicin Drumroll
Nt sure if this offering is tongue in cheek or not. it being from LSE, probably not!
Monzur
Posts: 38
Research
Opinion: Strong Buy
Price: 110.25
View Thread (2)
WILL BUY MORE …!!! STRONG BUY
Today 09:39
I HAVE RESEARCHED AND SEEN VERY STRONG FUNDAMENTAL OF THIS CO. . AND 75% OF MY TOTAL INVESTMENT…
I AM NOT TRADING BUT INVESTING. SO WHATS THE POINT USING STOP LOSS ?
RATHER I WILL STICK ON AS LONG AS I CAN….
Dominic Cooper
Mould – LSE BB Today 08:41
Posts: 1,803
Off Topic
Opinion: Strong Buy
Price: 106.50
Offer of £1.1bn for on the tab..
for QLS. Just heard! That’s twice our MCAP!
Followed swiftly by:-
bazmanblue Today 08:52
Posts: 479
Off Topic
Opinion: No Opinion
Price: 108.00
I hope they refuse the bid. The sp will then re rate and we can move forward
Followed swiftly by:-
K3VMC Today 08:59
Posts: 4,702
Premium Chat Member
Off Topic
Opinion: No Opinion
Price: 108.75
[in reply to the above]
Agreed. S&G will want a bargain price. I’m hoping Rose and Sutcliffe will want to show what their skills and connections can make of the company. Anyone can sell something worth £1.5bn for £1bn. Even me!
Come on guys! Show us what you are made of!,
GLA holders and QPPSAG
So there you have it. Slater and Gordon have bid to buy a personal injury business that may be of interest, but they certainly don’t need, that is worth tops a couple of hundred million, for £1.1 billion (i.e. double their own market cap). And QPP are going to reject that. Er… OK…
There’s so much shite on there it is unbelievable. Too much to choose from. Gems include that QPP are going to buy S & G, that they will merge, or that the purchase of QLS by S & G will be funded by QPP shares (surely even Rob Terry couldn’t make that one work?).
I don’t suppose anybody’s wondered why, if S & G so desparately wanted QLS, they wouldn’t just launch a hostile takeover of the Quenron PLC (it is listed after all!), and shut down all the other divisions. Even with a massive premium it would still cost them less than the £1.5 billion!!!!! The entire issued share capital of the company is only worth £460-odd million! So why pay three times that for only part of the business?? Maybe 2 + 2 does equal 5 down under?
Juicin Drumroll
Soros / coordinated international shorters / lizard et al conspiracy theory nuts on LSE.
Sparkle1
Posts: 743
Off Topic
Opinion: No Opinion
Price: 114.25
RE: Soros
Today 09:14
Conspiracy theory : FT journliast got knuckles wrapped for direct consultation with trolls and a few legal letters later, decided to ramp up SP for his mates the trolls to short so published SOros had 5%. Thats why his chief mate the Troll has gone on about Soros endlessly to cover track. Just a conspiracy theory i happen to believe
Juicin Drumroll
Much drooling on LSE in anticipation of the expected multi billion Pound S&G bid for QLS. Head cheerleader & leading QPP nutter K3VMC cautions QPP mgmt.
K3VMC
Posts: 4,702
Premium Chat Member
Off Topic
Opinion: No Opinion
Price: 108.75
RE: 1.1 billion
Today 08:59
bazmanblue
“I hope they refuse the bid (for £1.1BILLION!). The sp will then re rate and we can move forward”
Agreed. S&G will want a bargain price. I’m hoping Rose and Sutcliffe will want to show what their skills and connections can make of the company. Anyone can sell something worth £1.5bn for £1bn. Even me!
Come on guys! Show us what you are made of!,
GLA holders and QPPSAG
Juicin Drumroll
#confused
Sparkle1
Posts: 745
Off Topic
Opinion: No Opinion
Price: 111.00
RE: short QPP
Today 09:51
once you choose the gutter; difficult to get out of the gutter.
a.k.a. how do your actions help the company, its sp or its employees or shareholders?
dasv
Really:-
“
really
20 January 2015, 18:43
It’s quite easy to meet sales targets when they are mostly accruals or intra-group. E.g. “software licenses”
I suggest you check out the consolidated cash flow statement in h1 2014, and pay attention to the forthcoming cash flow statement for h2
“
Are you joking?
Consolidated cash flow h1 2014: Quindell burnt £115.5 million in 6 months
yet booked revenue in the same period of £357.3m
So a sh!t load of accruals.
What proportion of solutions revenue is intra-group?
Check out biosign for an example of QPP’s intra-group license revenue.
Are you entering this comp with a post of your own making? Is this against the rules? I thought you had to enter someone else’s post?
Phil
Can’t sleep tonight so I thought some “light reading” on the QPP BB would send me to sleep, then I read this howler
Reply | Recommend 1 | Report
Julien123
Posts: 161
Off Topic
Opinion: No Opinion
Price: 121.50
View Thread (9)
Slater and Gordon are AWARE.
Thu 23:50
“Contrary to press speculation today, SGH has not submitted any offer or proposal beyond the file transfer
transaction.”
Here is what is suspicious. Why would Slater & Gordon make the ‘talk’ public knowledge? and why would Quindell make the ‘discussion of sale’ public knowledge. Yes there are rumours, but rumours are rumours. They did not have to dismiss them. There are rumours everyday.
It seems that they want their private investors to be aware, and reinforce confidence. What does this mean exactly? It seems absurd that they would even bring this to attention, if this ‘deal’ was not getting serious.
Dominic Cooper
GrumpyScouser Today 09:22
Posts: 1,601
Off Topic
Opinion: No Opinion
Price: 124.75
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RE: i do like the strong
Me too.
How would a Special Dividend, say £1, affect short positions?
Hmm, Quenron must have found £436.5 million in a biscuit tin near the photocopier then, to pay a divi of £1!!!!
pink53
May I propose this from your own august site
“LEGAL EAGLE
23 January 2015, 17:15
Tom, you will be proven wrong on this one I am afraid, very very wrong, and my sources tell me that it will be before the end of next week, I think you will find a substantial offer made by S & G , in excess of £750M, because it turns out the company (well the legal , motor, health and insurance divisions) are well run, brimming full of cash and genuinely profitable, as for the rest of it, well that is Mr Terry’s legacy which he is welcome to, I’m so glad he didn’t get chance to interfere with the businesses above, because they really are diamonds in the rough. Keep an eye out for the news next week ………………………”
zeronegative
Seems that all the rumours of bids originate from clowns on the LSE board. Here’s another prize loon trying to sucker in new investors. Poster name is “Mould” – seems to like buying POS companies judging by his history. Another BB moron with made up contacts in the city – my sources says this guy is a bullshitter.
“I have heard from my city source that if the takeover of QLS by S&G is confirmed next week for a substantial sub of money (as many believe it will be), then the announcement may be made in the middle of the day and the Market Makers may increase the ASK instantly and substantially. A similar thing happened in the MONI share on Friday, jumped from 11p to 15p (around 40%) instantly, but that was only on interested parties and not a takeover confirmation.
Wouldn’t want to be out of this share for 5 minutes at the moment.
Phil
Struggling for a post to have a chance of winning here ?, Always look out for this guy. There are idiots, then there are idiots and then there is A E Marsh
A_E_Marsh
Posts: 2,066
Off Topic
Opinion: Strong Buy
Price: 116.25
View Thread (4)
Selling some family jewels ?
Today 11:48
When you’ve got so many to choose from you can afford to off-load some for a good price. I wonder if entering into negotiation with a single company is the way to go. A bidding battle might be even better for Quindell. We shall see. In a way it does apply a little pressure to S & G to get a deal done or risk losing out to the opposition if the negotiations fail. There could be a massive scramble if the Americans start bidding!
Juicin Drumroll
Dunno what to say about this moron from ADVFN.
whites123 24 Jan’15 – 16:35 – 20327 of 20332 1 0
What an absolute load of crap.
I really don’t want to get into tearing the drunken lieing piece of shit apart, but QPP are long known for being excellent payers.
QPP cash accounting show they have never relied upon bank overdaft.
struie
Here’s one of LSE’s most paranoid QPP trolls who dishes out daily bollocks about Tom and real man pizza. Meet Akcsl. Who at one point was on the LSE recommended posters list!! Only 5 of the 8 current recommended LSE posters are QPP uber bulls why they are recommended is beyond me!
This was akcsl’s reply to a perfectly reasonable post about S&G office space in manchester.
akcsl
Posts: 754
Off Topic
Opinion: No Opinion
Price: 116.25
View Thread (5)
RE: S&G’s New Offices….Not Bi..
Today 22:23
Troll Speak:
“have a significant holding “ – I’m shorting as much cash as I can on this
“I have my real doubts” – I need your help. I need you to sell your shares quickly before the margin call
“but I’ve mentally prepared myself for a long time for a fund raising by means of a Rights Issue “ – Come on guys, I’m panicking now. I need to buy some shares and they’re too expensive
“My gut feeling “ – I’ve got a sinking feeling in my gut because the share price is on the way up
“they are not after many or any of the QLS workers except for a few key personnel “ – I need to scare the employees into selling too
“reputational damage “ – If I don’t get some cheap share soon I’m ruined
Juicin Drumroll
This from Nerdofsteel, one of the bigger hypocrites & fools on ADVFN, incidentally rumoured to be another ID of your old mucker & repeat prize winning fool on Shareprophets, Daveycaferacer. How he justifies bogus restaurant reviews is interesting, helps if you bear in mind he is a moron. I doubt v. much you’ll be taking manners lessons from this bigot (see bottom post)!
Nerdofsteel 24 Jan’15 – 19:02 – 7454 of 7455 4 1
I have written to the FCA about Shareprophets asking why they are allowed to continue. I have also written to Ofcom. The language on the site is unacceptable and the Blogger needs to be stopped. No wonder people have written restaurant reviews.
Nerdofsteel
28 Nov’14 – 13:57 – 102 of 126 0 0
Sheesh, Yid boy will appear shortly crying “racist”!
Juicin Drumroll
Nerdofsteel 25 Jan’15 – 13:08 – 7268 of 7270 0 0
I have never used racist language
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Nerdofsteel
28 Nov’14 – 13:57 – 102 of 126 0 0
Sheesh, Yid boy will appear shortly crying “racist”!